I like it!

i also like it

3rd comment.i don't really like the looks of, but it's either this or the fly.depends on the price

What limited colors are there gonna be? ::drool::

GOLD!

Are you guys on a mission to rule the world?? The brake looks great! Any chance the straddle hanger will be sold separately from the brake?

They look great! but why make them really low then add really high springs/hardware... kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it?

i want that frame...light weight

have you done anything to reduce flex in the arms?

Looks great. Looks like a worthy alternative(ultimately more affordable too, I hope!) to the Fly brakes.

no hassle, simple... i like.

looks wicked!! but why hav big springs on it mkae 'em small and keep it tight

Modular cable ! It's fun !

What ever happened to having original ideas? All i see with this is a poor mans copy of the fly brake.

You went to all the trouble so noone would copy the elementary but are happy to copy the fly brake.

Rather hypocitical dont you think?

Yeah man, Will you be selling the cable hanger by itself? I already have two pair of your evolver's and they work perfect!

Yeah man, You guy's call it a straddle hanger. All I need are a couple of those!!

"What ever happened to having original ideas? All i see with this is a poor mans copy of the fly brake.

You went to all the trouble so noone would copy the elementary but are happy to copy the fly brake.

Rather hypocitical dont you think?"

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All we did is machine the spring pockets away and add a new straddle hanger. We're STILL using forge tooling for the Evolver that's seven years old. If taking the pockets away supposedly turns an Evolver into the Fly Brake, then what are you really saying?

The Elementary Stem is a new idea, that's been acknowledged by the United States Patent Office as something "original" that's worthy of protection.

ALL U-BRAKES are built off of the Shimano Deore and Dia-Compe 990. There is nothing patent worthy in the Fly Brake, or the original Evolver, they're both interpretations of brakes that are over 20 years old.

People asked specifically for these changes, so we gave them what they were looking for.

We've filed more patents in the last five years than any company in BMX, so your "what happened to being original?" question answers itself, don't you think?

Not to mention that the Evolver was the first brake to challenge the 990's dominance...and the "original" changes we brought to the table have influenced every other brake since.

Expect to see more in the braking department in 2007.

Chris/Odyssey

Hmm the elementary example was a bad one.

The first impression was that it looks like a fly brake hence my comment.

I do like the straddle hanger. Will you be selling those seperately?

Just out of interest but could you take an original evolver and just grind away the top to make the same as the evoII?

The only really original design in 990 type brakes is the Revenge Industries use of bearings in the arms.

And to the people asking why high springs/bolts. Have you never seen an uncovered 990 mount. The only way to make the spring part shorter it to cut the mount down...DUH!

Sorry for the lack of question marks, and typing "it" after shorter rather than "is" above...

I like it. And the price point is good.
But I'm not a fan of the EVOII logo.

its ok, but i think you guys could do better

hey tim, quit being a fucking idiot and actually think about somethign before you type. yea it looks liek they just groud away the top of it but there;s prolly more to it , if you cant appreciate what odyssey is doing then you just go quit making everything into a big deal damnit, everyoen else here seems to think i9t was a great idea and that you are the only one makign it into an issue and so go buy fly brakes if you think they;re more original than these, i love my evolvers and im in need of new oens so i think im gonna get my some of these

There's more to it than just trying to be original...Odyssey has pursued original ideas when there were clear benefits in the strength/weight/price departments to be gained. The Elementary is a good example of this. Not that it's perfect, but it's still a good example of Odyssey being original while allowing positive specs in the stength/weight/price departments, aight?

The EvoII is not like the Elementary, nor is the Fly brake. Stems can use a buttload of improvement, whereas our brakes are pretty damn good as-is. Therefore complete originality would be silly in this case and would stray away from what we know already kicks ass in the strength/weight/price departments.

My point being, while it's possible and sometimes necessary to reinvent things, the brake didn't need to be entirely reinvented. They just improved it a tad where it could use it. Innovative perspective; Odyssey has their shit down.

if it uses the same tooling as the original, then its machined, wouldnt it flex more than the original evolver?

On Flex:

All U-brakes will have some wobble on the mount. They're all in the basic 8.9-8.95 bore range. This has to be done because brake boss diameters vary from brand to brand.

Brake pad squeal should not be confused with arm flex. This is down to improper pad toe-in, which leads to vibration.

We've had riders testing them for a while now. We're obviously not going to launch a product that's inferior to its predecessor.

Chris/Odyssey

Brake pad squeal is caused by "surface tension" by softer pad and a chrome rim.
If brakes are more powerful, we do not need softer pad. If surface tension does not occur, brake pad squeal does not occur.

By the way, the Modular cable end is a barrel, but a ball type is better, I think.

I am sorry to be poor at English.

Would you recomend that frame mod?????

i like the double ended straddle cable idea

So when are you guys going to make a brake with a linear spring?

No plans for a linear spring.

There's a reason barrels were used instead of ball lugs. Regardless of that, it's a minor detail. There's really no noticeable difference between the two shapes when it comes to braking performance.

Rad ! Looks good, I have an evolver but I want a black one to go with my frame, I'll be rocking one when they are available :D

Primary reason that I would want one of these, its very very neat the straddle is lush and its a new evolver hehe :)

Thank you for answering.

When a cable lengthened, I think that a barrel inclines diagonally.

Any chance you could start making sum real fucking products!!! u pikey bastards.. face it.. if u want a brake u go to fly bikes!, if u want a hub you got to primo.. if u want cranks look no futher than profile.. u cant even make real tyres!! I mean the forks maybe.. but thats cos i peeled the stickers off.. and i say they are S&M! HAHA CUNTS !

instead of pointing out the stupidity of your comment im going to point out that your name is matt bond

pffft 'Matt Bond' what a gay name, get a fucking life faggot!

Good job on this brake. Can't wait. I might put brakes back on.

wow that matt bond kid is a fuckign tool!! even if you did pull the stickers off there still fucking odyssey and they still fucking good. fuck some people are stupid1

nice brake, cheaper than fly i hope

hey matt bond are those oddysey forks

nah mate there s&m

thats gay oddy forks are way better

nah, shoot me if i ever run oddy forks i hate them so much because i dont like people smarter than me

hey, whats engraved on those forks near the dropout i can read it o-d-d-y, hey those be oddy forks

*random guy shoots mat bond and the world is saved

*matt bonds father james uses the british cia to infultrate random guys layer for revenge, for matt bonds fathe james is 007

why did i do that? because matt bond is fucking retarded

haha amen to that cankles

Hey matt bond... if I want a jump, I go to your mum
you friggin lamo

i went to school with a matt bond who rode.......i say rode, he had all the gear no idea. he was a prick!