went cranks bein release..

That's a pretty nifty solution, i'm extremely curious to see how well the wedging system holds up.

btw, i've been running Race Face's Diabolus crankset and that is also a one bolt. It uses an axle with the same idea as the Fly 2.5pc. Anyway, i'm glad to finally see this.

If that wedge cluster is to make a stronger interface with the psrocket then how come it is on the non-drive side?

Will that integrated sprocket adapter work with the sprockets that already have a 22mm hole like the Tree?

If this is as good as you say it is then I am very impressed. Lighter than both the Profile and even the Primo!! And the Primo even has a Ti spindle and Aluminum arms.

the profiles with a chromo spindle are lighter than the primos with a ti spindle

Wombolts are lighter than the profiles and hollowbites, Both using Ti spindles.

I was stating that the combination of Aluminum and Ti is heavier than this design.

theyre horrid! theyre like them 2pc cranks that khe used to make. but obviously they will sell well becAUSE THEYRE ODYSSEY and evertybody licks odysseys ass these days. profile cranks are the muts nutts, nothjing beats them, sedond is the ody 41 therm. then its the primos, thats how its always been and thats how it gunna stay. seriously, them cranks are whack!

those cranks are probably gonna be pretty sweet

could i send civilians and race forks in and get the butted ones even tho theyre fine as new btu a year old?

i dont no about that one y dose evvery thing in bmx these days have to look like a freakin race product i dont see any racing here just street dirt and ramp so what s the point in makeing all this gay ass raceing inspired stuff wtf has bmx gone to these days . u guys rule tho civilian bars like two years now rite on guys thumbs up

damn look like george is not getting that much credit,from his product beside his hubs and gland.maybe the rim.but how about the cranks

I can assure that George is very happy with this situation. I'm not sure why you'd assume otherwise.

Chris/Odyssey

The fact that a two-piece crank has been done before is totally irrelevant. There are huge differences in the structural make up of this design.

And I can promise you that the crank is completely capable of handling anything that a "normal" three-piece crank can do...except these are lighter and far easier to assmble/diassemble.

SO i can see that there is most likely no margin for spacers or adjustments due to different frame specs...im currently running a fly pantera with profiles n spanish bb..i have a 2mm spacer on sprocket side, the like 4mm of spacers on non drive...its weird but it evens out fine..even the chain is aligned....maybe this isnt such a good product after all

i like those cranks..awsome idea to avoid using exspensive materiels to save wieght...u should post some pics of that LAF fully pimped out

i don't know what to think about these, if they're as strong as you say they are and aren't like the attempted poverty two piece i guess theyre good, it just sounds a little sketchy, two pieces when it would normally be three...

wicked sweet.
oh my god, this wieght issue getting way out of hand. everybody wants a strong, light, and cool lookin bike. colors and grafics may look cool but in the long run it tends to get trashed. a light bike doesn't mean its weak but it also doesn't mean its strong. same with a heavy bike. but soon riders sre going to sacrifice parts for weight, no seat for example. but then materials for these lighter products will start to become more expensive and harder to maintain. parts break and have to be replaced. but what happens to the old parts? its wasted material. but strength should be more of a priority than weight. soon bikes are only going to wiegh 20lbs and injuries are going to be up up up and the price is going to keep going up up up. but i just can't see this weight issue to slow, it will just be increasing.

sweet crackset though

The cranks can be adjusted with ordinary spacers on the sprocket and non-sprocket side, regardless of the BB-type being used.

Aye, so the new trend is the two piece. Firgures. But then agian my cranks are already 2 piece. you take off the drive side arm, and leave the other one on. I love it. Why not just make the thermals 2pc with some loctite?

odyssey will soon rule the world!

I'd like to point out that product's strength was not sacrificed to lighten this crankset. We wouldn't offer something like this if it wasn't going to be as strong or stronger than what's already available.

You really have to consider the difference in the spindle and interface design before you compare it to another two-piece crank. They're just not the same. This idea is unique enough to justify applying for a US utility patent. The fact that it's a "two piece" is not relevant in the making of that decision.

RAD!

very unique and thought-out set of cranks

if the arm and spindle are one piece then is the spindle going to have the same lifetime warrenty as the arms? and what kind of B.B are you going to make, mid, spanish, euro. and if it is a euro will it hold up i killed your 19mm and now run the spanish with no problems thanks a ton!

i trust odyssey, but are these ones going to be garateed for life?

Yo Chris are you going to answer my questions?

meh with the 2pc cranks
gayer than the cake !

I have been lucky enough to get one of these here cranksets to try out. I stayed at the shop late last night putting them together. After taping out the 19mm mid bearings and putting in the 22s, the cranks went together with ease. The sprocket fit on without the need of a sprocket adaptor and they slid on with ease. Then I greased the spindle, put on the wedges and simply just put the crank arm on. From there just tightened up the 6mm bolt. No worry about being off a spline, they went on with ease. I was worried about them loosening up, but after riding today they aren't loose yet. Right now I am so stoked on my bike.

are they gonna work with LHD?

how are you going to address the 22mm smaller bearing problem as opposed to a regular 19mm spindle??

Hey guys well picked up on... The same design has been working for Shimano and Raceface on their DH/Freeride cranksets since their '05 releases. They just use aluminum etc. With a veiw to increasing the size of the bearings, why not look into the external bearing designs used by the above companies?

I know Fly make a soloution for euro to spanish. The only issue i can see this causing is with wider BB come bad chain lines...

Maybe we'll be running with 140mm back end spacing. Makes for a stronger wheel too...

lhd, lhd, lhd!, i want these but can you use lhd? or will lhd only models be availiable in the future, good idea for bmx but if it destroys another idea(lhd) its not worth it

yeah I doubt this one will be LHD compatible, but I always thought small drivetrains made LHD less of a necessity (I hate that word...)?

the red wedge is plastic?

Can you use these cranks with a 'mid' bb? (press fit with usa size bb bearings... that one not the spanish bb sized one) And will the bearings be strong now they are smaller due to a bigger axle?

Ummm I think you can use it with the "MID BB" because the L.A.F has a "MID BB".

They use a 22mm spindle so they work with any 22mm bearing you choose. Euro, Spanish, Mid, American.

They will be available in a seperate LHD version. That is what I use.

I am SO stoked on these cranks, I can't wait to get my hands on a set. They are look really good, and my Primos are about dead. I love how innovative Odyssey is, keep it up guys.

Heng,

The wedge cluster is a stronger interface between the spindle and arm, when compared with an ordinary spline or pinch bolt fit. The text on the drawing is a typo. "Sprocket" should say "spindle". I'll fix that right now.

The intergated adapter will not work with a 22 mm specific sprocket. Whether we roll with the built-in adapter will depend on the sprockets that are available near the time of release.

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The cranks are likely to be sold without a BB set.

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LHD and RHD will be available. Lengths will eventually be 165, 175 and 180.

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A special 22 mm Euro BB is being considered, but we'll have to wait and see how the frame market goes. It seems like everything will be Mid or Spanish within the next year.

The wedges are steel, not plastic.

Both of the arms will have a lifetime guarantee against bending and breaking.

SO WILL THE WEDGE CLUSTER LAST A REALLY LONG TIME? AND WILL THEY BE SOLD SEPERATELY SO I CAN STOCK UP IF I CHOOSE TO BUY THESE NEW SET OF CRANKS? AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH IM' REALLY HAPPY WITH MY 41 CRANKS BUT THEN I LIVE DOWN HERE IN BAJA AND IVE' HAD NO PROBLEMS SELING MY LEFT OVER ODYSSEY PARTS' WHEN I BUY NEW ODYSSEY PARTS'

How much might these cost?

you might want to rethink that fastener size. looks like it could be stripped with repeatitve service if needed but probly not knowing odyssey.

how much do you have to torque that thing?

never amazed by odyssey.
those cranks look tight.

the only problem i have with odyssey (more my problem than odsy's) is that as soon as something dope from odyssey comes out, by the time i am able to save up and actually buy the new stuff, odyssey either makes the product better or comes out with a better product.

bmx parts are evolving at the rate of cell phones and computers. damn.

*never unamazed, not never amazed.

Ldh owns your soul

how much will they cost
or atleast close to how much will they cost

Word. i'm guessing S&M makes the 22mm Mid bearings? or what?

Any plans on a kevlar cover for the senior seat??

that would rule

Can i make a special request? Would you consider doing a 24mm version? as that's the size of spindle the outboard bearing mtb cranks come in, and incidentally what i have, ie; i could use my current BB which seems prety darn good.

HEY BIKER DUDES THE WOMBOLTS' WILL RUN YOU ABOUT $180.00 BUCKS! NOW GO RIDE YOUR BIKES' AND TRASH THE CRANKS' YOU HAVE SO YOU CAN BUY THESE SICK PUPPIES!! I AM!!!

I doubt they will make you a special 24mm version,any idea how much it would cost to reconfigure the machines? But the outboard bearing thing is what i was talking about, Fly make the cups... there like £25 in england.

when will these be released in england my cranks are broke and are just rideable but i need to upgrade soon any ideas?

Hi, isnt this just taking it to far? i have never heard anyone complaining about their cranks or the weight? are you guys just bringing out a new product just for the sake of being different, or are their any real reasons/advantages to this product?

There are some real problems with the design of bikes today stuff being weak i.e chains/drivetrains.

Is there anyone working on these problems, or is everyone just trying to make things lighter. i say you designers get out there and start work on the shaft driven bmx frame? that would really open some eyes!!!!!!

Thanks to anyone who took the time to read my little rant

Guy Stretton
U.K

^ These are fixing a problem though!
Most 41 thermal owners realised that the cranks come loose like every 5 seconds. And these hopefully address that problem whilst also improving on other areas.

Please read the information provided.

Notice the the large text: LIGHTER, STRONGER, CHEAPER.

I think this is addressing 3 different problems with modern cranks. I think we have already proven that lighter does not mean weaker.

yo....that kind high price for cranks...$$180.

That is an estimate right now since the cranks are in the prototype stage.

I think for cranks should be the strongest/lightest available, with a lifetime guarantee, that is a good price.

ehh, im not really diggin it, i run profiles and ive had no problem and i dont see a reason to get new cranks. if my profiles ever do break, ill try these

These cranks seem similar to the shimano saints with exception to the wedge cluster. Supercross also came out with a 2-peice design similar to the saints but using chromoly arms. Also, do not forget where this sport started from, racing, there dont have to be race specific parts. look at profile racing's cranks(this is actually their full name as it is on all of their parts) they are used in every discipline of the sport, even trials and mountain bikes.

Thanks for pointing the wedge cluster out. We never said that the 2 piece was innovative. Bullseye, Shimano, Race Face, Dk OEM, etc. We chose the 2 piece for weight savings but as the drawing says, the HEART of the design is the wedge cluster. That is the special part. The 2 piece design is a nice additional feature, but by no means the "invention". The wedge eliminates the spline problems and the pinchbolt problems at the same time.

haha i so called this out when i was told odyssey was puttin new cranks out...i feel cool now
i was like they are gonna do a 2 pc design like the saints and possible outboard bearings...im stoked
i want them
odyssey/gsport has a great love of wedges

so.... when are they coming out ?

Nice cranks, it's a good job that wedge system isn't 4 sided though, or who knows what people would be saying about it.

Hey, I know George has said it would cost too much to make a G-Sport type cassette hub, but now that G-Sport has the backing of odyssey is there any plans for a G-Sport cassette hub??

It would be the best hub available, no doubt!

As it is, we have to decide between the best hub out (G-Sport) or smaller, lighter, out-of-the-way gearing.