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Jpeg light is getting lighter. (in testing stages, but soon to be in production.)
New pins for the JC pedal, so its is easier to remove damaged pins, without stripping the thread in the pedal body. (Running change, will not show up for a few months)
For those of you who think a light stem won't hold, check out the wedges I am running. Magnesium wedges and Titanium bolt/nut. 6.8oz total stem weight. (strictly a design study, not intended for mass production and WILL NOT be made available. The cost is outrageous, sorry)
Posted by Jim B at February 8, 2005 08:25 PMhow much did it cost with all the extra light whieght goodies. odyssey you guys dont just beat the competion you bury 'em. good job
Posted by: Ian at February 8, 2005 08:35 PMDaaaaaamn. Thats nice!
Posted by: stan at February 8, 2005 08:42 PMI want thoes pegs. How much lighter are they from the last ones?
Posted by: Nick at February 8, 2005 10:04 PMSweet, i bet in ten years our bikes will weigh like 10 pounds (only odyssey shyte)
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doo other companies make anything any more???
Posted by: fisher at February 8, 2005 10:54 PMin the sealed jim c pedals are the replacment pins without heads to put in the spots where they will get damaged so you can screw them all the way through instead of trying to get the out and damaging the pedal
Posted by: RIDE HARD at February 8, 2005 11:01 PMso it costs how much to loose 1.2oz's?
Posted by: Joe B. at February 9, 2005 12:31 AMhey, i have that steem, and i love it, but my friend had it before me, about a week ago, and it sliped at least once a day for him, but he is heavyer and really hard on his bike. i think it is alos because my bars are larger around than his i have the fbm bars and he has the civilian. anyways i like it, and he likes my old fit stem.
Posted by: chet at February 9, 2005 12:57 AMThe Elementary Stem won't slip if it's installed AND tightened properly. You should always contact us directly if you're having a problem.
The "cost to weight-saved" ratio with mag/ti hardware is very unbalanced, and thus difficult to justify - which is why this configuration is not being offered. This was just an exercise to show that even an ultra-light version of the stem can perform during heavy, everyday usage.
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Posted by: Chris Cotsonas at February 9, 2005 01:13 AMholy crap. amazing, you guys are amazing.
Posted by: sparks at February 9, 2005 01:38 AMthem pegs look very weak but light a F***
Posted by: pockets at February 9, 2005 04:33 AMthe elementary stem gives me more of a reason 2 buy it now! titanium will take over bmx! and the world!
Posted by: fit series2 at February 9, 2005 08:39 AMhollow ti pins next?!
Posted by: fetidfbm at February 9, 2005 12:27 PMtodays my birthday!!!!! that light pegs should only be used as a front peg
Posted by: joe at February 9, 2005 03:23 PMBeautiful stuff guys. Although the cost is outragous, I'm 100% sure that if you made them there would be people willing to pay for the wedges and bolt. Sad, but true. Keep up the great work guys! P.S. Will you guys ever offer a race fork with dirt dropouts?
Posted by: AesopRock at February 9, 2005 04:01 PMthat stem is ridiculous, 6.8 oz, o man. And still probably strong as hell
Posted by: bradan at February 9, 2005 05:08 PMThats crazy...
Posted by: Joe B. at February 9, 2005 09:48 PMyour elementry stem is one of the best stems iv ever seen, forks are good bars are good everything you guys have made is perfect thanks for being a good company
Posted by: tim at February 10, 2005 09:23 AMthose pegs are gonna break right off. it's just plain bad to remove material from the base of the peg.
Posted by: konsp at February 10, 2005 01:46 PMhas a elementary stem ever boke....make better bars and brakes. you guys kick ass
Posted by: jimbo at February 10, 2005 02:46 PMNice stuff, but are you serious with the new light pegs? Even the Kink LT seem to crack easy, so how could this new peg hold? Keep up the good work and please, don't just drop the wheight, be innovative too - as you are with the elementary stem.
Posted by: kater at February 10, 2005 03:00 PMi think the way production of the materials has improved greatly over just the last 5 years, that it'll just keep going. therfore, the pegs are a good idea. magnesium is available to the public if you choose to make wedges yourself, as are titanium bolts, just be sure you know what alloys you should be looking for. the pins are going to have a different feel to them. if you can't tell the difference between the old pins and like a generic DX pin, you're lying. these new pins look like they're going to feel similar to the generic pins.
Posted by: bike dog at February 10, 2005 03:51 PMhow's about some signature jim b. grips?
Posted by: livewire at February 10, 2005 07:36 PMyeah when are you guys going to make 14mm race forks. cause i dont trust those fit ones that are just as light and that macneil fork is just too darm expensive
Posted by: vic at February 11, 2005 10:53 AMSo far so good with the pins! There hasn't been much to notice as of yet, they might be a touch sharper though. I have been doing pedal grinds on rails and wooden ledges and they haven't had a problem. I will do more to see, but everythings okay so far.
Posted by: Jim Cielencki at February 11, 2005 03:36 PM@ Jim:
The idea behnid the new pins is great! An I like your pedals - best ever made.
Posted by: kater at February 11, 2005 05:13 PMBasically the premise behind NOT doing 14mm dropouts on the Race Fork is, If you need a 14mm front axle, you shouldn't be using a Race Fork, you should have a Dirt Fork.
And the Taiwanese comment makes no sense because Odyssey forks are tested and proven stronger than ANY other fork made. US and Overseas.
Posted by: Jim at February 11, 2005 05:42 PMFor cielencki, I run your pedals and they are holding up just great but they tend to cup my sneaker on hard gaps you think I should use longer pins??
Posted by: cfn rider at February 11, 2005 08:29 PMOdyssey, please design a median between the race and the dirt fork. I run race forks, the only problem i've had is bending the dropouts from toothpick stalls. I've never bent a fork leg or steer tube and I see no reason to run a 14MM axle or dropout. I know the Dirt is available in 3/8ths but it would be nice to have a lightweight version of the dirt fork that can stand up to light street and park use.
Posted by: Aesop at February 11, 2005 10:51 PMcfn rider, I am not sure what you mean by cup your sneaker on hard gaps? Do you mean that they slip or that your feet wrap around the pedal when you land? Let me know and I will help you out.--jim
Posted by: Jim Cielencki at February 12, 2005 10:28 AMfor cielencki, my sneaker left one tends to lift off the center of the pedal you know it arches upward but just in the middle you know what jim i know this sounds weird but it does happen hey jim put one hand palm up and your other hand palm down on top of it now lift up your knuckles only your knuckles thats the cup affect that happens to me but only on my leftside if you can help out that would be cool later,
Posted by: cfn rider at February 12, 2005 10:58 AMlooks like your forks have bent as your top headset race is out of line..... maybe im nibbling x
Posted by: jack at February 12, 2005 04:26 PMI would really like to hear some honest feedback from some of the team riders (J.C., Gary Young, Jimmy LeVan, etc.) on how the elementary stem has been working for them. I currently run the classic redneck stem and my bars have maybe slipped twice at the most since installing it two years ago. I am wondering if the elementary stem can offer the same superior holding power. Thanks for making parts that last and are really worth my hard earned money(like the dirt forks, evolver brakes, and milk bars) .
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Posted by: joe at February 13, 2005 11:12 AMhow would you compare the feel of a MONOLEVER TRIGGER to a diatech Goldfinger, and i know its not your product, but i'm sure someone has the ability to compare it.. i hate my goldfinger and use one finger braking, my friend has a MONO-small, and i dont think i would like one finger braking with that one.
Posted by: tom***** at February 13, 2005 12:38 PMFrick, there's a ton of rust on my bike, I was going to get the civilian bars and the cfn stem cuz my bars were slipping but the bike shop used some sort of glue and, I haven't tried it yet because the snow isn't gone yet but we've had about a week of 40 degrees plus weather, now I'm sick, damn
Posted by: Lucas Judd at February 13, 2005 01:48 PMThe weather in ohio sucks, but i get to ride chenga. go there.
Posted by: Kevin at February 13, 2005 04:17 PMi really hate to take the risk of putting my own foot in my mouth, but i have no faith in those pegs not breaking into a million pieces. i broke some kink lite's without even doing anything and they are thicker than those. we'll see.
they look cool if nothing else.
wow wtf what is the point of this shit everyone nowadays are to concerned with how light their bike is it is fing stupid no no it is perposterous
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fuck anything that is so light it breaks.....odyssey
To Odyssey, the whole damn company!
You guys are SO god damn far ahead of any other company! If you stopped today other companies would be playing catch-up for years!
From the bottom of my heart (on Valentines Day no less) THANK YOU!
the stem doesnt slip at all
i love it
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I saw Keith Mulligan's Odyssey Elementary stem when he came to my local park. When he loosened it, one of the wedges flew about ten feet.
Posted by: bizzle at February 15, 2005 01:10 AMto bad that stem is ugly
Posted by: kevin at February 15, 2005 12:03 PMYou guys just keep getting better and better. I can't thank you enough for all the hard work you guys put into each and every part you make. I hope those pegs will hold up on street, they look kinda sketchy, but I trust you.
Posted by: bmxpunkr at February 15, 2005 02:56 PMCFN rider, Hey that is definitely weird, I wonder if it is something with your foot or shoe? Maybe you could run longer pins in the pedals in order to hold the foot better, in otherwords more grip. This might prevent some of the lift. Does your foot sit on the pedal the same way your right one does? Because maybe your foot is orientated differently thus providing the lifting.
Posted by: Jim Cielencki at February 15, 2005 03:04 PMcm08, I have only been runing the stem for a few weeks and so far so good. Surprisingly enough even when you loosen up the bolt it still takes a lot of loosening for the bars to move. I can only vouch for so much because of my short time running it, but so far so good on my end.
Posted by: Jim Cielencki at February 15, 2005 03:07 PMfor Cielencki, I'll do that thanks alot Jim. Take care
Posted by: cfn rider at February 16, 2005 09:52 AMJim
Are u guys at kink going to use a spanish bottom bracket on youre frames?
nice pins luv. the pedals thanx
Posted by: kevin ellsworth at February 16, 2005 08:57 PMyou guys need a frame
Posted by: tom at February 16, 2005 10:12 PMi need somone to ask so plz if u no reply. I ahve a vandero hub and 14mm pitchforks and i run primo adapters, will that strengthen weaken or not do any thing for the strength of the axle
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Posted by: cesarmsh at February 17, 2005 04:34 PMJohn:
That shouldn't do much the the strength of the axle. It should work fine.
cesarmsh: what exactly is your question?
Posted by: Jim at February 17, 2005 07:52 PMHey Jim what's up, you know why so many sizes why so many psi's?
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what the fuck, you guys advertising computer virus's these days? The pegs DO look too lite and I can foresee many dumbasses falling on their faces due to the extent of the machining, what the hell is up with this weight shit, I know a guy thats 15 that throws huge 720's and 540 hurricanes, hes about the only one that needs a lite bike, and he finds his way around and only buys the best shit. Ti kicks ass, Mag. shouldent go past pedals, (maybe headset cups if you are that much of a pussy?) and what the fuck is with the street stuff going lite, if you grind you ARE NOT THAT SMOOTH either you are really shitty or arnt trying hard enough if a 25 pound bike is lasting you for street, as far as park riders, 20 pound bikes, go for it, some of the park only riders these days are fucking weak, all they do are manuels and some rediculesly lame gaps. The weight epidemic shames me!
Posted by: The_Incredible_fuck at February 23, 2005 04:02 AMYou know what I did I cut my dropouts my seat post mast got rid of my pegs and changed my fat street chain for the drop buster my bike is much lighter now, I know I'll go back to pegs and I'll put on a really light pair but then I don't grind that much, so keep this in mind it doesn't matter how light or heavy your bike is what matter's is how much fun riding is.
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