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August 27, 2004Elementary StemConcept and engineering by George French. Designed and manufactured by Odyssey BMX. US and foreign utility patents are pending. - One bolt simultaneously locks the handlebars and steerer tube into place. - Available with or without Gyro tabs. - Replaceable hardware and internal components. - Forged and machined 2014 aluminum main U-Frame. - Extruded and machined 2014 aluminum inner components. - 8 ounce weight. - 50 mm reach. - Black anodized finish. - 8 mm allen wrench included. - Available in late 2004. Your questions answered; 1."Why the secrecy?" Contrary to public opinion, the stem was not covered "to keep other companies from stealing it." The stem has an abnormal configuration that evolved through three basic prototypes. Covering the stem allowed us to work at our own pace, keeping the pressure to deliver off of the people involved with creating and selling our products - namely our distributors, our shops and ourselves. It needed to be ride tested without people questioning its availability date, so the box was used, and a lot of imaginations wandered. "How different can it be?", was the question heard the most often. Now you finally know. 2. "Isn�t that going to slip?" It has been repeatedly tested on virtually every possible fork and bar brand combination and ride tested for a year or more. It doesn�t slip. 3. "One bolt? Isn�t it hard to adjust the bars and stem at the same time?" It seems like it would be, but it�s actually easier. Only one bolt needs to be turned to clamp the bars and fork at the same time. The bolt takes an 8 mm allen wrench, so there�s no reason to be concerned about damaging that part either. It�s strong, and if you ever manage to strip the bolt or nut for some reason, all of the hardware is replaceable. 4. "Why does it look so strange?" You�ve probably never seen anything like it, so of course it looks strange. "Form follows function" is a motto repeated everyday in design and architecture schools around the world. This configuration couldn�t be a better example of form following function. In fact, it could be argued that its simplicity actually makes the traditional "block of aluminum stem" look strange. 5. "It�s like half the weight of a normal stem, so isn�t it weaker?" No, this is not a weaker lightweight alternative to the traditional part it�s replacing. It�s a full strength, full 50 mm reach, fully functioning stem that just happens to be half the weight of the "traditional" version. This was accomplished by rearranging and redesigning the stem�s assembly configuration. 6. "Why isn�t it a "drop" stem?" Drop stems are leftover from a time period when the only handlebars available were 8" or higher. In 2004 there are literally hundreds of bar sizes to choose from. This stem allows you to run shorter bars, ultimately saving weight in that area of the bike also. Combine the Elementary Stem with Civilian Low Bars and a Race Fork and you�ve shaved well over 1 lb. of weight (or even more) from the front end, and that�s without any significant sacrifice in strength. 7. "How much does it cost?" It will be in the same price range as a "normal" stem. Posted by Jim B at August 27, 2004 01:44 PMComments
its cute Posted by: logan noel at August 27, 2004 01:50 PMit looks alittle weird,but that doestn mean i wont use it,i had that thompson stem and it was extremly weird,this might be a big change in the way people look at designing parts,and when will i beable to get one,i want to try it for my self. Posted by: justin at August 27, 2004 01:50 PMHOLLA BACK. Odyssey rocks out... WERD!! One questions: can i get that in hot pink? WERD. Posted by: mc at August 27, 2004 01:51 PMThat $hit is disgusting Posted by: Eddy at August 27, 2004 01:52 PMthats the ugliest stem I've ever seen. Posted by: ret at August 27, 2004 01:55 PMpretty crazy i dont mind it. lets see some pics of a whole bike with the stem on it Posted by: omen at August 27, 2004 01:57 PMi asked gary when i saw it on his bike, but he didnt know the answer. what if your forks have a short steer tube? or you cut yours? how does that work Posted by: agordon at August 27, 2004 02:03 PMWonderful, you guys and George have outdone yourselves. Really fucking impressive, glad to see someone is thinking about progression rather than stagnation! Make one in silver finish as well. If possible. Posted by: Moss at August 27, 2004 02:07 PMi like it will G's say G-sport on it or did he just test it? Posted by: ya at August 27, 2004 02:10 PMIt does need to have full steerer tube, but not much more that any other properly fitted stem. You should always have the fork come just under the very top of any stem. All of the "short" forks we tested will work (uncut) and a fork like Odyssey's can be cut a lot before it its too short. Posted by: Jim at August 27, 2004 02:12 PMIt looks good. I actually was thinking about a similar design but the single wedge bolt was vertical oppesed to yours bing horizontal. There is no G-sport version. George calloborated with us, so the only stem is the Odyssey Elementary. George has been covering the same stem I have on my bike. Posted by: Jim at August 27, 2004 02:16 PMyea.. this stem is the best.. the best part.. aside from all the cool specs and lightness and all that sweet stuff is the crazy comments people have about it. Odyssey has done a good job with this new stem, The thing I like about Odyssey is that they are always PROGRESSING!Not like those losers at Primo! Anyways,Jim, Do you think that ever in the SOON future that there will be Pink Hazards and cassettes? Posted by: Christopher at August 27, 2004 02:23 PMHEy People,YOu GUys NEEd TO stOP TALKing ShIT aBOUT ODYSseys PaRTs! LeTS sEE yOU gUYs MakE BETter PartS thEN!! Posted by: Christopher at August 27, 2004 02:25 PMBeautiful... Posted by: Dex at August 27, 2004 03:57 PMMine was better. Posted by: DJ Spiffy McDoo at August 27, 2004 03:59 PMim buying one Posted by: jon at August 27, 2004 04:15 PMah thats hot. i like it...when will it be avalible (like month) what about pinching and does it have any sort of warrenty? Posted by: flybiker at August 27, 2004 04:51 PMits ugly....ok, im getting it :) Posted by: peej at August 27, 2004 05:21 PMhey will u guys be maken any other versons of that stem. I would really like to see a shorter Flatland verson of that stem. If u make it, i will by it. Posted by: greg at August 27, 2004 05:26 PMOdyssey has rasied the bar again in design. I think I will definatly be getting one, since its the same price as a "normal" stem. Will the chock full o' nuts, nut and bolt work with it? Posted by: Joe B. at August 27, 2004 05:35 PMMy first thoughts were 'thats damn wierd', now after reading about it its grown on me, my next stem for sure, looks really cool but the first photos make it look wierd. Posted by: guyfrom england at August 27, 2004 05:58 PMAwesome stem, Chris. G-sport, you are the man with the plan! Posted by: Evan Charlton at August 27, 2004 06:19 PMwow.. i actually just like really looked at how it works. props to you guys...thanks for playing a role in steppin it up. Posted by: bad manors at August 27, 2004 07:11 PModdsey makes other companies look stupid. nice stem. god damn. Posted by: so cal mike at August 27, 2004 07:29 PMwhos bikes are those is the pictures? Posted by: david at August 27, 2004 08:01 PMTHE LITE BLEU ONE LOOKS LIKE IT IS THE BIKE OF RICH HIRSCH. Posted by: Christopher at August 27, 2004 08:34 PMIt's Jim C's I think. Posted by: Joe B. at August 27, 2004 09:21 PMim a little skepticle and it looks wierd. if u guys say it works i believe u tho. any news on a 53mm or bigger reach on it? Posted by: tom at August 27, 2004 09:34 PMDamn ugly but i'm so buying it Posted by: steve at August 27, 2004 10:06 PMOdyssey is the shit once again!! I think you should make it to match the red, blue and black anadozed finishes like on the evolver and Jc pedal or maybe even make it in limited edition color like the new GLOW IN THE DARK JC PEDAL!! Posted by: Neil Scott at August 27, 2004 10:08 PMits good to see a stem that dosent look like a redneck lt or primo cnc Posted by: crackwhore at August 27, 2004 11:19 PMthis may be a dumb question but how do you get the bars on there Posted by: Zac at August 27, 2004 11:47 PMthats awsome.the first time i saw it i thought "odyssey" it just looks like an odyssey part, alot of other companies dont have the balls to produce something like this.i love it! so what colours?suggested retail price?availible when? and do you have anymore pictures of a whole bike with it on..and maybe one from the seat facing it too:) Posted by: jorden at August 28, 2004 12:20 AMeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww id rather ride a thompson stem like this flamer i know Posted by: id rather ride a thompson at August 28, 2004 12:46 AMThis flamer above me took a lot of time to type that. That ewwwww must have a thousand letters in it. What a flamer. He has no life. I SPEAK TRUTH. HAHA. Posted by: moron above me at August 28, 2004 12:49 AMThe only two things that I think Primo has better than Odyssey is their PrimoPro hubs and their Primo Alloy and Balance seats. But other than that, Odyssey all the way! Posted by: chico at August 28, 2004 02:08 AMNow you guys need to make lower Skim Milk bars. Posted by: Aleks at August 28, 2004 02:11 AMThe Odyssey guys and George have really outdone themselves with this stem. It is by far one of the most innovative bike parts to come around in a long time. Congradulations you guys will be shortly selling the stem that will be on everyone's bike in a few months... hopefully. Posted by: Bryan at August 28, 2004 08:23 AMJust because have a brand new design, don't mean has to be the best, indeed i prefer the "normal" stems. But anyways odyssey rocks. Posted by: SquAre_1 at August 28, 2004 10:32 AMplain and simple, ODYSSEY ROCKS Posted by: 666 at August 28, 2004 12:20 PMplain and simple, ODYSSEY ROCKS Posted by: 666 at August 28, 2004 12:20 PMAll you guys havent even runned the stem yet and already you people are talking about how GREAT this stem is.For all we know, the elementary could be a cheap stem after all, but hey, we will just have to wait for it to come out and try it for ourselves and then praise it like you idiots are doing now for a stem that you dont even run! morons Posted by: freddy at August 28, 2004 12:25 PMI will definently not be buying this stem,here's why 1) it's ugly yea lets all talk shit on something someone produces. hows your bike company doing?,oh thats right,you kids dont have the brains to accomplish something like that. these guys are trying to do something for bmx,and you fags are sitting here bashing on them and other companies. ^^^^^^^ur a idiot ...odyssey makes the best stuff...i KNOW if i broke ..u would get another one....i broke my intac and they gave me another one..its not ugly..its new...and orginal..art can be consider ugly ..but its really something new and great..most likely will be the same... Posted by: ^^^^idiot at August 28, 2004 01:06 PMno him bu the ramon kid ...my bad Posted by: ^^^idiot at August 28, 2004 01:07 PMAny idea for a name? i dk why but call it the art stem... Posted by: pat at August 28, 2004 01:09 PMramon and freddy your stupid, first freddy- we are praising the stem for its design being innovative and original, we are not saying its amazing it runs perfect and it will last forever. “the elementary could be a cheap stem after all” well yes it could be cheap, but why would odyssey invest money into something that they know wont perform. Odyssey being as cool as they are with warranties would loose out on a lot of money if they kept replacing the “cheap” stem. And they wouldn’t have even considered it before producing it if they felt it wouldn’t work. Do you know how much fucking tooling for this would cost. Maybe you should do some research and take your head out of your ass. Ramon- did you not read form follows function? It actually is a design term used meaning it first has to work then second comes the appearance. And if your not into odyssey parts then that’s your thing, but why bother to look on their website and post shit. Just grow some balls and try to think outside that box you live in. Posted by: jorden at August 28, 2004 05:21 PMwow i really rant like an asshole. Posted by: jorden at August 28, 2004 05:23 PMThis stem looks kick ass and the color too. If the cost is lower than the thompson then im getting one! Posted by: Doo at August 28, 2004 06:14 PMThat is my new stem!!! Posted by: SPENMAN at August 28, 2004 08:24 PMPlain N simple, the stem is S H I T! Posted by: Ramon at August 28, 2004 11:44 PMI agree with jorden. ODYSSEY ROCKS. THE STEM MAY NOT LOOK GOOD, BUT IT MAY PERFORM AMAZING AND ITS LIGHT. GO ODYSSEY!!! Posted by: i agree with jorden at August 28, 2004 11:49 PMRamon ...kind ur comments to ur self..jackass Posted by: pat at August 28, 2004 11:49 PMpat,you should also keep your smart-ass comments to yourself also if you cant right a correct sentence! It's "KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF" not "kind ur comments to ur self" you fucking Jackass, learn how to speak Bitch!! So maybe your the "JACKASS" you fuckin' homo faggot dickface motherfucker! Posted by: Ramon at August 29, 2004 12:13 AMSomebody (Ramon) got out on the wrong side of bed.... Posted by: peej at August 29, 2004 12:44 AMdamn ramon,you might as well of came up with the sorriest excuse for a comeback ever.before you start making fun of someone for being stupid and not being able to WRITE a sentence,learn how to spell bitch!! and whats with using curse words like a 4th grader. Posted by: who cares at August 29, 2004 12:47 AMRamon- you sure are a good speller! How ironic is it that you used the wrong form of "right" in your sentence? You are so cool. Posted by: spelling bee at August 29, 2004 12:48 AMI wrote RIGHT because i was being sarchastic idiots! Posted by: Ramon at August 29, 2004 12:57 AMThat Ramon dude is real loser.I bet he gets his lunch money stolen at school everyday! Posted by: ?ANONOMOUS? at August 29, 2004 01:30 AMoh yeah ramon..its YOU'RE..not your...so maybe YOU'RE the jackass... anyways, i don't have any doubt in my mind about this stem being good! i've never had an odyssey part crap out on me yet! i support and salute them on this stem! great job you guys! i plan on giving up my solid stem for this (the solid stem is ultra bad ass, so giving it up for the elementary stem is showing how much i trust odyssey!) Posted by: slaytanic-biker at August 29, 2004 04:13 AMoh, and one more thing ramon...everyone knows that 2 negatives equals a positive, so you actually called pat straight when you called him a homo faggot...maybe that was a way of comming out of the closet? you're calling everyone else straight like its a bad thing? its ok if you have a little sugar in your tank, just don't bash straight people for being straight! man i can't stop looking at this stem! its awesome looking and i can't wait till the day that its on my bike! the guys at odyssey needs a big freaking hug for this one! they sure did STEP UP when everyone else wouldn't Posted by: slaytanic-biker at August 29, 2004 04:20 AMSo... when can I expect trigger modulevers? Posted by: Aleks at August 29, 2004 05:41 AMThis comment thread shouldn't be put up here to bash odyssey. Sure, this stem isn't too aestheitcally pleasing at first, but when 2 piece bars came out, everyone who ran 6 piece bars thought they were ugly as sin. You shouldn't base your opinion on this stem becuase of how it looks. If so, you should be spending your money at Abercrombie and Fitch instead of BMX. This stem is all about innovation. This stem has thrown out the basic block, 6 bolt stem idea, and replaced it with a new, highly efficient product. ONE BOLT? That means you don't have to spend time adjusting each stem bolt to reach equal tension. Most people are lazy when it comes to working on their bikes. If I could ajust my bike or most parts of it with just one bolt, I would be stoked. Odyssey gave you your wish. If you can't look past the way the stem looks (which isn't too bad BTW), and see all of the good points it offers, then you should go ride your 2~hip pork and shutup. Since it doesnt drop down would it mean that I ride your guys civilians which are 7.75 would it feel like a 8 since it doesnt drop. And is this why the picture of Georges Bike in gsportbmx.com are like blocked out? Posted by: kris at August 29, 2004 10:31 AMThe new Elementary stem is pretty tite, but I still will not switch from my solid to anything else, I think the solid stem is best best ever made. Hooray for Solid! Posted by: Christopher at August 29, 2004 01:35 PMi hate humans. i like the odysey stem. i might purchase one. i too ride the solid stem and have never had any problems. i got a new odyssey lever yesterday and i like it alot. bye. Posted by: pete radivo's #1 fan at August 29, 2004 03:40 PMI AM ALSO THINKING ABOUT BUYING THOSE SOLID CRANKS FOR$225 WHEN I GET SOME EXTRA CASH! I RIDE EVERYTHING SOLID EXCEPT FOR THE SPROCKET. I RUN THE KILLING MACHINE,SOLID DEATHFORK,SOLID STEM, SOLID HELLLIGHT BARS,SOLID DEATHGRIPS,SOLID HEADSET,AND SOON I WILL HAVE THE CRANKS! Posted by: Christopher at August 29, 2004 03:55 PMThe stem looks really strong and actually more clean with almost no exposed hardware or edges. The only thing is that the steerer tube is exposed. Most forks come with only primer on the steerer tube, so wouldn't the part exposed be extemely susceptable to rust? Congrats to Odyssey on once again being the first in a major innovation in hard parts technology. Posted by: Joe at August 29, 2004 07:49 PM^^G-Sport said something about that, he said just to put a little greese on there to protect it. Posted by: Joe B. at August 29, 2004 08:25 PMthis stem rocks im gettin one i hope it aint gonan be over fuckn 55 dollars though, oh well, it rocks and so does odyssey Posted by: Jim Joe M. at August 29, 2004 11:15 PMIs the baby blue bike Rich Hirsche's? or may-b Gary Y's? Posted by: Christopher at August 29, 2004 11:16 PMcool Posted by: tyler at August 30, 2004 02:15 AMPretty certain this stem is gonna rock... Cant see George French putting his backing behind a bad product... I personally like the look of this stem... A quick blast of spray paint should fix the rust issue... All good... Having one. Posted by: Ben at August 30, 2004 08:20 AMNice stem, Oddy Posted by: RJS at August 30, 2004 08:41 AMI appreciate all the comments. The "blue" Bike is actually mine. It was a lavender "hutch" purple, but it is already repainted since. I scratched it up really bad on the trip to europe. Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2004 12:48 PMIm gonna get me one of those when they come out. Posted by: b-rad at August 30, 2004 04:22 PMnice ass stem, when its tim for a new stem, thats going on my bike, and whatelse will we see from odyssey in the near future, will there ever be any headsets, chains or even a frame from you huys? keep on rockin with the good ass parts :) Posted by: Matt at August 30, 2004 05:41 PMnice stem again,i think it would be alot better then my prio m stem i have everypart on my bike is odyssey (except the spoks and that stem) so when i get this ill have a complete bike with odyssey parts it might take off atleastes 1 pound because im using that 18 oz primo stem icouldnt get the chuckfull o nuts because i broke my brothers and he wanted me to get him a new one.well ill be getting that as soon as it hits albe's or dan's Posted by: justin at August 30, 2004 08:06 PMwhat is 2014 aluminum? thats what the explanation of the stem says that it is made out of. maybe 6014? and when will it be available? word. Posted by: riderofbike at August 30, 2004 09:55 PMthis stem is the best, it has the most innovative design, but they took their time with the prototype, so they could make sure it works well, and is reliable. i'll admit it looked ugly at first, but the more i thought about its inovative engeneering, the better it looked. take a good look at it before you talk trash. odyssey is an incredible company. i will always run odyssey parts, nothing out can beat them on their price, strength, reliability, looks, and guarantee.
-Chet from Pismo Beach California Posted by: looking for sponsor at August 30, 2004 10:24 PMpete radivo is an amazing rider. take heed. Posted by: pete radivo's #1 fan at August 31, 2004 12:26 AMHey Ramon if you think Oddysey is crap then why are even wasting your time looking at their website. MORON. Posted by: oddy at August 31, 2004 12:53 AMSince it doesnt drop down would it mean that I ride your guys civilians which are 7.75 would it feel like a 8 since it doesnt drop. Posted by: oddy at August 31, 2004 01:06 AMare you guys planning on making one with removable tabs Posted by: Zac at August 31, 2004 01:04 PMdoes the new Albes pedals come in a limited edition box too or is it the regular box? Posted by: Victor at August 31, 2004 04:48 PMFUCK! Now everyone knows my email address!!!! Posted by: Jezabelle Redford at September 1, 2004 02:52 AMTo: Jezabelle Redford FUCKING AMAZING. I love seeing people that actually know their stuff and dont just randomly say "that shit sucks" because it doesn't look as trendy as their Redneck LT. People, seriously, do your goddamn homework before you trash a product. Understand the product and how it works, and WHY it works the way that it does, before you trash it. When something new and innovative comes along, obviously it's gonna look fucking weird. I'm sure the light weight frames of today looked like hell compared to the overbuilt tanks of the 90's, I'm sure that 1 1/8th headtubes looked pretty stupid while everyone was used to the 1 inch threaded designs they originally had. I'm sure that gyros were originally looked at and people would say "it'll never work". But they all have something in common. They all DO work, and have become quite common in our sport today. Learn from the past mistakes of judging something before its proven. Stop trashing odyssey for this innovative product, that will most likely become a standard among the industry. Since, we all know that people love to copy Odyssey's ideas. :P So, to Jezabelle Redford, Thank you, for being one more person that isn't a judgemental little brat, and for actually taking the time to consider a product before spilling off that its ugly or inefficient. Because we all know that odyssey doesn't make bad stuff. Posted by: Nate Lasovich at September 1, 2004 05:41 PM98 Posted by: 98 at September 1, 2004 09:08 PM99 Posted by: 99 at September 1, 2004 09:09 PM100th comment Posted by: 100 at September 1, 2004 09:10 PMFirst of all I wan to Say GEorge and ODy are fucking dope!! From the enginner aspect we all can see, it's a master piece!! Genius!! From the People who babble here and there. You go and do some HW on engineering before adding comments. Besides, nowaday which foolish company will mass produce without indepths prototyping test. Except for some..... With this stem, it simpify installation, lighten up ur bikes, and eliminates any inappropriate stress distribution. AND to further LIGHTEN this babe Rock on and other companies shd look into R&D like what ody are doing. MAn, that's wat exactly the BMX committee needs!!! Posted by: Aaron at September 2, 2004 12:24 AMdude i want so bad. the look grows on me everyday. dude i want so bad. the look grows on me everyday. well congrats on the most original/efficient stem design ive ever seen... and i was just wondering if it would come with both of the little plates that go against the steerer tube, to have the choice of switching in and out of gyro tabs? Posted by: Jeff Kennedy at September 2, 2004 03:07 AMnice, can't wait to throw one on. late Posted by: maligmat at September 2, 2004 05:36 AMi have question for Jim, its really off topic. well anyways i got the thermal cranks about a month ago and i could never get my removal tool to thread into the crank arms. oh well. keep up the awesome work. p.s. could u plz release the stem b/c i want to get rid of my S&M shit. Posted by: tyler at September 3, 2004 02:55 AMJust to say that, I'm one of the many waiting for it to hit the shelves... The simplest designs are always the hardest ones to come up with. It looks like (the future will tell) you were able to go to the minimal needed form without loosing strength... Posted by: FlyBikesPantera at September 3, 2004 12:12 PMi love you guys, when can i buy it Posted by: jeff at September 5, 2004 08:26 PMthats what i wanna know Posted by: derangedbiker at September 6, 2004 12:16 AMYet another amazing product from Odyssey. This is why I run almost all Odyssey parts. At first I hated how it looked, but the more I look at it the more I like it. Move over Redneck LT, this is my next stem. Keep up the good work. Next you need to come out with a new seat or I might have to get the new Macneil post/seat combo. lol Posted by: bmxpunkr at September 11, 2004 01:19 AMThe stem should be available in late October. Posted by: Jim at September 13, 2004 01:12 PMthat thing is too light, your bike will float away! Posted by: cole at September 16, 2004 04:08 PMi saw adam banton with that stem at hawthorne skatepark. that stem is cool! im gonna get it for sure. Posted by: bob at September 16, 2004 08:59 PMhow the fuck do u put ur bars on that stem? and when can i buy one? Posted by: sam at September 19, 2004 06:56 PMhow the fuck do u put ur bars on that stem? and when can i buy one? Posted by: sam at September 19, 2004 06:56 PMi would hella buy that stem it looks sick and all you fuckers that diss odyssey and what they make can all kiss my hairy white italian ass Posted by: sean at September 20, 2004 12:19 PMthis stem is safe as. its a kool design from a kool company. have you got any dates for when it will be in shops (usa or uk) cheerz Posted by: paul at September 24, 2004 11:16 AMthis stem is safe as. its a kool design from a kool company. have you got any dates for when it will be in shops (usa or uk) cheerz Posted by: paul at September 24, 2004 11:16 AMThe stem looks really really good. Why is it made with 2014 instead of 6061 or 7005? Isn't 2014 aluminum alloyed with copper? Just wondering. Thanks. Posted by: Sequoyah at September 28, 2004 12:30 PMThis stem is AWESOME in design, Its got a pretty good look, Maybe a little more metal around the bars would be a good idea for those 250 LB. riders, and those who throw flips. Anyway I love the design, And I may make my stem with this stem in mind, Since thats not gonna happen for 6 months HERE I COME ELEMENTARY! Anyway, Jim reply too all your shiny new comments on the JC pedal section ALSO Dear god there are some stupid people here, Why doesnt god strike these fuck's dead sooner!? soem dude had that stem at the animal jam and it looks really fucking nice and dialed in person, i know at first when you see it in the pic it looks stupid but in person thats like the nicest lookign stem i have ever seen, and from what jim tells us it seems like the the best functioning stem made as well....fuckign awesome, how much do you think ittl cost when it comes out? Posted by: matt at October 2, 2004 10:53 AMstem looks gay but its a rad concept Posted by: chadwick at October 7, 2004 11:14 PMlooks like to put it onm you slide the bars through the gap in the back where the fork is exposed then you chuck in the wedges then slide bars and stem at the same time over the steerer then attach the top bolt. if you think its ugly, do what oddysey and george did when they were testing, chuck a cardboard box or bag over it. itt'l still weigh half as much as normal stems. by why would anyone want to cover a peice of bmx engineering history. 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