Seems like Burgundy is the new black. Levan riding the RaceForks, now we know they are strong.

That looks really good in my opinion....i really like the burgundy/black parts, it looks good. ( its weird , i always imagined Jimmy Lavan's bike to look real beat up and old....i guess not.)

nice!

wow, way to copy off the tree sprocket...i mean, i know someone will post up here about "the spokes are an inch, trees arent" blah blah, thats all bullshit, i mean, where do you think the design came from. thats fucked, and thats exactly what is going to kill bmx again, i know its just a sprocket, but if someone makes something good, dont go and copy someones idea just because it sells good. fuck that.

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whoever it is complaining about that metal sprocket needs to know 2 things:

1) all sprockets perform the same task and people buy whatever sprocket they want, not about what you care about

2) Jimmy LeVan could kick your ass

i just noticed something....some of the bike check links pop up bigger than other . * damn * i wanna see jimmy's bike close up !

does the race hold up for pegs?

mitch- its called save it then look closer.

this is for Mitch Syer
TREND WHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s. its spelt LEVAN not LAVAN
LEARN TO READ

Well John since Levan and just about every rider on the Odyssey team runs pegs on the RaceForks the should hold up. Though they are only warrentied for racing, if you ride street just get the DirtFork. Its just 8oz more and the warrenty cover streetdamage.

WOW! The greatest part of people complaining about the metal sprocket being a rip off of the tree sprocket, is the fact that I've got a huffy sprocket sitting at my house right now off a bike that had to be from at least the 80's....AND ITS THE SAME FUCKING THING. Yes, thats right, HUFFY beat them ALL to it. Do I care? Fuck no. It's a sprocket, as long as it does the job, it does the job, who cares who thought what first. I mean, do you complain that 90% of companies make their frames from 4130? Because I'm sure that started out as just ONE companies brilliant idea that everyone else followed suit with.

its all about trends .. the same bmx shit has been out forever its just new companies come out with cheaper ways to make it, find riders to support thier name , they slap thier name on it and try to make money off it. nothing has changed . the only companies i see tryin to make a differnce are odyssey and macneil, jay was tryin to be innovative with his seat and post but havent road bikes used that setup for awhile now ?, the hiddenset from S&M is a great idea im not sure if they were the first to come up with it, now jay is ridin a macneil with a hiddenset. like nate said it doesnt matter who thought of it.if it works then bring it to the riders. the only thing that matters is the goodtimes you have while riding your bike. So quit bitchin

well can you say light weight freak :)

well the ultimate question is, why does it matter if your bike set-up is original. personally in my opinion, it is the rider that should be original, so if your bike is so called trendy, what does it matter? thats just my 2 cents

hey Andrew a.k.a some guy , piss off , whats wrong with me having an up to date bike , and i spelt Levan wrong by accident , its called a typo ass hole .

.......OR jimmy Blum

yeah. the fbm 6013 looks like that too. just one less "spoke". there are many others also.
so just stop bitching that metal stool trees idea!

Are those Dagger frames going to be comeing out in 21tt,(or is that just a custom, or something) because i really liked the look of them but i herd they were only comeing out in 20.75 but i would like a 21.

also i think in the Metal DVD (which is amazing) i think its spelt LaVan, i'm not sure though

oh crap i just realized Odyssey have spelt Levan, opps...

Its Actually Le Van

Check the new Pic.

Thats cool.....odyysey made one just like all the new " lite " versions of sprockets today,

......I dont mean they designed it today , but they're like ones that are being designed today by other company's .

is that jr. seat a custom color grey. or is it just a reclection, and is there going to be any new colors for that seat?

and when was that sprocket made and are you bring them back?

hey guy that is complaining about the sprocket your a fucken douchbag and you should shut up and worry about your own fucken buisness.

hey guy that is complaining about the sprocket your a fucken douchbag and you should shut up and worry about your own fucken buisness.

This is for the guy That is crying about the metal sprocket looking like the tree sprocket. Let them do what they want to do. And for the comment about killing bmx. Your the low life trendy little kid that kills bmx. Just do what you do and dont talk shit.

yea i hate kids that are trendy and get really good bikes and dot even ride. like this kid i saw one time at hollywood sports he just sat there the whole time .hes has like a baby blue stricker and hes fat.
p.s. g- trooper guy your right about those kids they shouldnt even be on a bike.

G-TROOP i think ive herd of that some where.i see g-troop stickers on peoples bike, what is g-troop anyways?

fuck g-troop there fucken gay .especialy that guy that always talks shit and thinks hes cool.
It should be g-poop

this is really andrew and i think its funny that people try to talk shit and put other peoples names cause they are pussies or they are just trying to get people in fights so grow up u little bitches

wow, i thought i was reading bmxboard :P

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Nice bike, I <3 the burgandy.

uhhmm... The "Z915" and 46t? That screams old school. I think Odyssey is trying to illustrate that the Tree sprocket is not all the original except for the 7075 thing. People were complaining that the Metal sprocket is a rip of the Tree when in actuallity the Tree is just a revised version of the Z915. That's my guess, correct me if I'm wrong, Odyssey.

"uhhmm... The "Z915" and 46t? That screams old school. I think Odyssey is trying to illustrate that the Tree sprocket is not all the original except for the 7075 thing. People were complaining that the Metal sprocket is a rip of the Tree when in actuallity the Tree is just a revised version of the Z915. That's my guess, correct me if I'm wrong, Odyssey."
i think thats exactly why they would put that down there.

yeah but that sprocket isn't out now is it. all sprockets in the 80s were 5 spoke spiders with chainrings bolted on. it was only a matter of time until somebody made a one piece one.

it only took weeks for a photo to turn up because the ody sprocket is like 20 years old. the theory that tree found one of these sprockets and copied the design is a bit far fetched. the ody sprocket probably wasn't a big seller even back in the day, i never remember seeing one.

the theory that metal didn't redesign this old ody sprocket but instead sent a tree over to be copied is more believable because A, lay them on top of one another and they match up exactly, and B, right now the tree is the most popular sprocket out there. this is the same reason that the macneil guard sprocket got copied by 4 or 5 other companies.

what it really comes down to is that if it's a cool company doing the copying then nobody cares. but if haro or dk copies something then it's a big bru-ha-ha.

one last thing. you don't have to be against one company and for another company no matter what. for example you can be friends with someone and still disagree with something he decides to do. for another example i would never buy the metal sprocket, i would buy the tree instead (it's a better sprocket anyway), but i wouldn't buy the tree front hub, i would buy a g-sport instead. why should companies develop new products and new ideas if everyone just goes out and buys the cheaper knockoffs? do what odyssey says in their gyro adds and go with the originator.

yeah but that sprocket isn't out now is it. all sprockets in the 80s were 5 spoke spiders with chainrings bolted on. it was only a matter of time until somebody made a one piece one.

it only took weeks for a photo to turn up because the ody sprocket is like 20 years old. the theory that tree found one of these sprockets and copied the design is a bit far fetched. the ody sprocket probably wasn't a big seller even back in the day, i never remember seeing one.

the theory that metal didn't redesign this old ody sprocket but instead sent a tree over to be copied is more believable because A, lay them on top of one another and they match up exactly, and B, right now the tree is the most popular sprocket out there. this is the same reason that the macneil guard sprocket got copied by 4 or 5 other companies.

what it really comes down to is that if it's a cool company doing the copying then nobody cares. but if haro or dk copies something then it's a big bru-ha-ha.

one last thing. you don't have to be against one company and for another company no matter what. for example you can be friends with someone and still disagree with something he decides to do. for another example i would never buy the metal sprocket, i would buy the tree instead (it's a better sprocket anyway), but i wouldn't buy the tree front hub, i would buy a g-sport instead. why should companies develop new products and new ideas if everyone just goes out and buys the cheaper knockoffs? do what odyssey says in their gyro adds and go with the originator.

does the jr race seat hold up for street and park?

It does for James Le Van

i think that this whole sprocket argument is absolutely absurd and i am vehemently opposed to this very silly feud. i think that if it is a sprocket of ample proportional weight-to-size-ratio that the consumer of the product should proceed to purchase the sprocket of the company that they support.
*maybe i've confused everybody so much that they will stop the arguing about such a stupid thing*

all of those sprockets are just rippoffs of an old beach crusier chainring, there just mschined copies of what once was stamped sheet metal, quit wining

drama, drama, drama. Just stop worrying about everything and just go ride!

sweet bike. lol people these days using other people's names to talk shit. hmmm i think theres a new trend... JK

no mo drama in my life fool. fo real dis time.

tom sucks and he has a fro. haha

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Odyssey Made that sprocket in the late 80's early 90's.
It was not so original to say we INVENTED it. It is basically a One piece aluminum sprocket, Not unlike anyone elses at the time. (we are not bringing it back, it was just to illustrate my point.)

7075 was not INVENTED by Odyssey, or Tree, or anyone else who uses it. It is a material that has been around but just neglected because of its higher cost. Its a slight innovation because it is a way to improve an almost impossible thing to improve upon. We have been had a 7075 sprocket available since the 36T Utility was introduced at interbike 2001. I have no idea when Tree did it but it doesn't matter cause it is a material improvement. Like the comment before about the 4130 chromoly, were frame builders supposed to keep using crap steel or start using the improved material that someone else thought to use?

Removing material from a piece of aluminum isn't an invention and shouldn't be considered one.

.....exactly.

yea, when i was like 5 my huffy had a sprocket that lookked EXACTLY like a tree sprocket.so for all you guys that think tree is so inovative and is the best company ever and there so innovative and everything you need to think about this. sure....they do make some good parts, really good parts, but how the hell can you be inovative when the only things you make are sprockets and headset caps....oh and i forgot about brake lever bolts.

chad i don't have a fro anymore

hey jim you probably dont hear this often from ounce whining sprocket complaining nincompoops( however you spell it)... thanks for the bike check

Tree is a cool company and I like everything Sam is doing. While he may not have many things out, Everything he does do is very well thought out.

is the chain ring out yet if not when will it be out in the uk

that seat looks out of place on the bike its so tiny

everyone stfu who cares bout trend u cant decide whos bike setup is a copy or w/e everyone has a prefered bike setup shit if i was a company i would wanna make money isnt that the purpose of a buisness??lol do u expect them to be different and wast money on stuf no one will buy??

does anyone know wich pedals are better?snafu or jim cielinci

the tree sprocket is way stronger than the metal anyway so who cares! Plus tree is a way more rider friendly company, LETS SEE METAL GIVE YOU A NEW SPROCKET IF YOU BEND IT, tree will.

i've had the jr. seat for at least 6 months park and street riding and it is way bad ass. no bent rails or nothing!!!
i swiched to the new shadow seat for like a week but then went back cuz the jr. is way more out of the way

yeah that new shadow slim seat looks really really nice. i like the metal dagger too that frame looks sweet and considering how its true temper tubing for that price (on dans anyway) it seems like a steal, id get it but... i dont got a euro! and im too lazy to buy the converter.

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